but jeff sessions, a lot of republicans have voiced concerns about this. including maybe it should be done in a more piecemeal approach. that is, take a piece of it here, a piece of it there. don't try to do a big package. first of all, is there any likelihood that's going to be the approach either now or going forward? and should that be the approach in terms of getting something through the senate? >> strategically taking a big universal approach, a comprehensive approach to immigration reform is ha is needed. because these issues are all entangled. if you increase worker visas for high tech, ha do you do for lower-skilled workers? all of those things you can't do one without touching the other. we saw this in 2007, when you had john mccain and ted kennedy working on a comprehensive deal. you started to see the same kind of doubting thomass that jeff sessions has been, that was the ultimate undoing of a comprehensive bill. is it amnesty. what is the pathway, are folks jumping ahead in line. certainly marco rubio is making a case that they are not jumping